{"id":62134,"date":"2023-11-09T02:00:57","date_gmt":"2023-11-09T02:00:57","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/jurn.link\/tentaclii\/?p=62134"},"modified":"2023-12-17T22:10:30","modified_gmt":"2023-12-17T22:10:30","slug":"moebius-emulation-via-stable-diffusion-1-5-a-survey","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/jurn.link\/tentaclii\/index.php\/2023\/11\/09\/moebius-emulation-via-stable-diffusion-1-5-a-survey\/","title":{"rendered":"Moebius emulation via Stable Diffusion 1.5: a survey"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/jurn.link\/tentaclii\/index.php\/2023\/11\/07\/necronomicon-pages-ai-generator\/\">More<\/a> delving into the options for &#8216;add-ons&#8217; that can steer <a href=\"https:\/\/sunija.itch.io\/invokeai\">the Stable Diffusion 1.5 AI image generator<\/a> toward certain styles or objects in its images. The community&#8217;s work on SD 1.5 add-ons now has an excellent range and depth (things move fast in AI-land), and also a healthy dash of &#8216;quirky&#8217;. The ethos is &#8216;free&#8217;, and there&#8217;s no payment involved so long as you run the image generation on your own PC. Image generation can be helped along by &#8216;guide poses&#8217; created from 3D-figure desktop software such as DAZ Studio and Poser.<\/p>\n<p>For the style of the French comics artist Moebius with SD 1.5 I found the following, after a thorough search:<\/p>\n<p>* <a href=\"https:\/\/civitai.com\/models\/181759?modelVersionId=203977\">Moebius Color Style &#8211; v1.0<\/a> is a LORA that tries to emulate the later &#8216;colour Moebius&#8217; style. Said to work best as an add-on for the large Xenogasm checkpoint model for SD 1.5, which seems to have been specially trained for the sort of subject matter you might find in old 1980s copies of comics magazines such as <em>Heavy Metal<\/em>, <em>1984<\/em>, <em>Epic<\/em>, etc and similar. Perhaps also <em>Zona 84<\/em>, <em>Ere Comprimee<\/em> etc, at a guess. The 1970s-style Xenogasm model is NSWF in the eyes of the 2020s, as you might expect. Apparently Xenogasm 2.1 is the last before it started being heavily re-worked for more realism, so you may want to try that first.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/jurn.link\/tentaclii\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/moebiuscolor.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/jurn.link\/tentaclii\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/moebiuscolor.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"528\" height=\"352\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-62135\" srcset=\"https:\/\/jurn.link\/tentaclii\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/moebiuscolor.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/jurn.link\/tentaclii\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/moebiuscolor-528x352.jpg 528w, https:\/\/jurn.link\/tentaclii\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/moebiuscolor-768x512.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 528px) 100vw, 528px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>* <a href=\"https:\/\/civitai.com\/models\/8430?modelVersionId=9943\">WASMoebius V1<\/a>, which is an Textual Inversion &#8216;Embedding&#8217; add-on for SD 1.5 rather than a LORA add-on.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/jurn.link\/tentaclii\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/WASmoebius.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/jurn.link\/tentaclii\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/WASmoebius.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"528\" height=\"352\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-62136\" srcset=\"https:\/\/jurn.link\/tentaclii\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/WASmoebius.jpg 2304w, https:\/\/jurn.link\/tentaclii\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/WASmoebius-528x352.jpg 528w, https:\/\/jurn.link\/tentaclii\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/WASmoebius-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/jurn.link\/tentaclii\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/WASmoebius-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/jurn.link\/tentaclii\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/WASmoebius-2048x1365.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 528px) 100vw, 528px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>* For a more old-school &#8216;B&#038;W Moebius&#8217; one might try the <a href=\"https:\/\/civitai.com\/models\/102231\/centerflex\">Centerflex &#8211; v2.8<\/a> checkpoint model. Its main promo images are photoreal and it is a &#8220;photorealistic-first&#8221; model. But delve into the description and note that this is a dual model. Switch it to its illustration mode and it is said to specialise in the &#8216;clear ligne&#8217; line-art of the French and Belgian BD comics and Moebius in particular.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/jurn.link\/tentaclii\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/centerflex-moebius.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/jurn.link\/tentaclii\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/centerflex-moebius.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"512\" height=\"768\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-62137\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Artist styles that this model was explicitly trained to on include Roy Krenkel, Jean-Pierre Gibrat, Milo Manara, Willy Vendersteen, Francois Schuiten, Edgar P Jacobs, Herge, Jacques Tardi, and Moebius. [&#8230;] This model contains a general activation keyword phrase to evoke a certain hybrid comic book style and composition. This phrase is &#8220;ligne claire&#8221; meaning &#8220;clear line&#8221; after the Franco-Belgian comic book [line-art] tradition.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>* Possibly also worth a look, in complete SD checkpoint models, is the <a href=\"https:\/\/civitai.com\/models\/4398\/protogen-infinity-official-release?modelVersionId=4974\">Protogen Infinity checkpoint model<\/a>. Trained on comics, isometric art, science-fiction. As well as Protogen, ReV Animated (aka ReVAnimated) is a model name that pops up for use with the more comics-oriented LORAs. There are also SD 1.5 models trained on modern western superhero art, such as iCoMix.<\/p>\n<p>* <a href=\"https:\/\/civitai.com\/models\/83305?modelVersionId=88524\">Metal Hurlant Comics &#8211; Moebius, Bilal, Druillet<\/a> is a LORA trained on a range of the classic 1970s\/80s French comics artists. Though it appears to work best with the more grungy Druillet style. An &#8216;alpha release&#8217;, and not likely to be updated to a 1.0 release.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/jurn.link\/tentaclii\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/metal-hurlant.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/jurn.link\/tentaclii\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/metal-hurlant.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"528\" height=\"352\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-62138\" srcset=\"https:\/\/jurn.link\/tentaclii\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/metal-hurlant.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/jurn.link\/tentaclii\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/metal-hurlant-528x352.jpg 528w, https:\/\/jurn.link\/tentaclii\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/metal-hurlant-768x512.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 528px) 100vw, 528px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/civitai.com\/models\/104898\/another-damn-art-model-adam\">Another Damn Art Model (ADAM)<\/a> was partly trained on Moebius, along with other <em>Heavy Metal<\/em> and 1970s artists.<\/p>\n<p>* There&#8217;s also a relatively refined attempt at <a href=\"https:\/\/civitai.com\/models\/17974\/enki-billal\">Enki Billal &#8211; v3.0<\/a>, a Bilal style which might combine well with one or two of the above. <em>Update: And another attempt, <a href=\"https:\/\/civitai.com\/models\/202357\/enki-bilal-style?modelVersionId=227808\">Enki Bilal Style &#8211; v1.0<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/jurn.link\/tentaclii\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/bilal.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/jurn.link\/tentaclii\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/bilal.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"528\" height=\"798\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-62139\" srcset=\"https:\/\/jurn.link\/tentaclii\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/bilal.jpg 1432w, https:\/\/jurn.link\/tentaclii\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/bilal-528x798.jpg 528w, https:\/\/jurn.link\/tentaclii\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/bilal-768x1161.jpg 768w, https:\/\/jurn.link\/tentaclii\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/bilal-1016x1536.jpg 1016w, https:\/\/jurn.link\/tentaclii\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/bilal-1355x2048.jpg 1355w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 528px) 100vw, 528px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Some people combine checkpoint models and LORAs and &#8217;embeddings&#8217;. So for instance one might combine the big Centerflex model with the smaller Moebius Color Style LORA as an add-on.<\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t see anything that can do the distinctive &#8216;dash shading&#8217; of Moebius. Although I&#8217;m not sure an AI could do this, unless it could be trained to follow the shading on a depth-map from a 3D figure \/ scene&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/jurn.link\/tentaclii\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/dashsha.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/jurn.link\/tentaclii\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/dashsha.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"528\" height=\"472\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-62245\" srcset=\"https:\/\/jurn.link\/tentaclii\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/dashsha.jpg 825w, https:\/\/jurn.link\/tentaclii\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/dashsha-528x472.jpg 528w, https:\/\/jurn.link\/tentaclii\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/dashsha-768x686.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 528px) 100vw, 528px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Ok, that&#8217;s what I found. Now all I need is the 12Gb graphics card for the PC, to be able to try them out. \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>More delving into the options for &#8216;add-ons&#8217; that can steer the Stable Diffusion 1.5 AI image generator toward certain styles &hellip;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/jurn.link\/tentaclii\/index.php\/2023\/11\/09\/moebius-emulation-via-stable-diffusion-1-5-a-survey\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[12],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-62134","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-lovecraftian-arts"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/jurn.link\/tentaclii\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/62134","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/jurn.link\/tentaclii\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/jurn.link\/tentaclii\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jurn.link\/tentaclii\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jurn.link\/tentaclii\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=62134"}],"version-history":[{"count":24,"href":"https:\/\/jurn.link\/tentaclii\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/62134\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":62583,"href":"https:\/\/jurn.link\/tentaclii\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/62134\/revisions\/62583"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/jurn.link\/tentaclii\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=62134"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jurn.link\/tentaclii\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=62134"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jurn.link\/tentaclii\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=62134"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}