{"id":17834,"date":"2018-10-07T06:46:13","date_gmt":"2018-10-07T03:46:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/tentaclii.wordpress.com\/?p=17834"},"modified":"2025-03-22T12:41:16","modified_gmt":"2025-03-22T12:41:16","slug":"state-of-fantasy-1977-2011","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/jurn.link\/tentaclii\/index.php\/2018\/10\/07\/state-of-fantasy-1977-2011\/","title":{"rendered":"State of Fantasy, 1977-2011"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Yesterday I stumbled across Dave Cesarano&#8217;s 15,000-word catch-up overview of epic\/high fantasy from 1977 to 2011. I found it usefully informative, as someone who hasn&#8217;t taken much notice of newly-published epic fantasy books since Thomas Covenant t&#8217;wuz a lad, and who thus welcomed hearing a fan&#8217;s succinct plainly-spoken overview of how it all turned out. <\/p>\n<p>It turned out badly, it seems. On the one hand, a cadre of sour Tolkien-haters racing ever-downwards into despair, gore, rape and angst, all chasing an adolescent&#8217;s shallow idea of what &#8220;edgy&#8221; and &#8220;realism&#8221; is meant to look like. On the other hand, waves of badly-written lacklustre Tolkien pastiches, foaming out to ever-wider lengths at the behest of cynical publishers.  And in between the two, the slowly widening chasm of tone-deaf political axe-grinders.<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s the impression that I came away from Cesarano&#8217;s essay with, anyway. Possibly there are other weightier surveys of the epic fantasy novels of the period, akin to Joshi&#8217;s sweeping critical take on the history of recent weird fiction. Though I don&#8217;t know of any offhand.<\/p>\n<p>But if Cesarano&#8217;s fan-viewpoint is to be trusted, and I&#8217;ve no reason to doubt his sincerity, then evidently I didn&#8217;t miss much in terms of the big post-<em>Covenant<\/em> works. Except perhaps for Tad Williams&#8217;s <em><a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/2OHDyNB\">Memory, Sorrow &amp; Thorn<\/a><\/em> series (though he&#8217;s on record was wanting to infuse leftist &#8220;politics&#8221; into the genre), and some <a href=\"http:\/\/mzbworks.com\/works.htm\">Marion Zimmer Bradley<\/a>.  Elsewhere I hear good things about Ardath Mayhar&#8217;s first Dunsany-like book <em>How the Gods Wove in Kyrannon<\/em>, and her later <em>Crazy Quilt: The Best Short Stories<\/em>. Also Jon Brunner&#8217;s <em>The Compleat Traveller in Black<\/em> (1986) and David Gemmell&#8217;s debut novel <em>Legend<\/em> (1984). If I&#8217;d have heard about those in the mid 80s, rather than the gloomy-but-worthily &#8216;grown up&#8217; <em>Thomas Covenant<\/em> books, which eventually killed my interest, then I might still be reading fantasy.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, here are the links for Cesarano&#8217;s &#8220;The State of Fantasy Since 1977&#8221;.  Keep in mind that he&#8217;s talking about epic fantasy novels here, and is not straying off into short-stories, anthologies, fantasy-steampunk, schoolboy wizards etc.<\/p>\n<p>Introduction: <a href=\"http:\/\/caffeinesymposium.blogspot.com\/2011\/07\/state-of-fantasy-in-1977.html\">The State of Fantasy in 1977.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>1. <a href=\"http:\/\/caffeinesymposium.blogspot.com\/2011\/07\/fantasy-1977-1989.html\">Fantasy: 1977-1989.<\/a>  (If you&#8217;re short of time, just start with &#8220;1982&#8221;).<\/p>\n<p>2. <a href=\"http:\/\/caffeinesymposium.blogspot.com\/2011\/07\/fantasy-1990-2000-age-of-doorstops-and.html\">Fantasy: 1990 &#8211; 2000.  The Age of the Doorstops and Gimmicks.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>3. <a href=\"http:\/\/caffeinesymposium.blogspot.com\/2011\/07\/fantasy-1999-to-2011-disillusionment.html\">Fantasy: 1999 to 2011.  Disillusionment and Nihilism.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Conclusion: <a href=\"http:\/\/caffeinesymposium.blogspot.com\/2011\/07\/fantasy-1977-to-2011-wrapping-it-all-up.html\">Fantasy: 1977 to 2011. Wrapping It All Up.<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Yesterday I stumbled across Dave Cesarano&#8217;s 15,000-word catch-up overview of epic\/high fantasy from 1977 to 2011. 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