{"id":13861,"date":"2023-08-28T02:49:54","date_gmt":"2023-08-28T01:49:54","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/potbanks.wordpress.com\/?p=13861"},"modified":"2023-08-28T02:49:54","modified_gmt":"2023-08-28T01:49:54","slug":"finding-a-wrights-coal-tar-soap-alternative","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/jurn.link\/spyders\/2023\/08\/28\/finding-a-wrights-coal-tar-soap-alternative\/","title":{"rendered":"Finding a Wright&#8217;s &#8216;Coal Tar&#8217; Soap alternative"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I was annoyed this week to find that <a href=\"http:\/\/cosgb.blogspot.com\/2014\/08\/wright-layman-umney.html\">Wright&#8217;s<\/a> Coal Tar soap bars have switched down from 125g to 100g (though still 80 pence, at supermarket prices).<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/jurn.link\/spyders\/oldimages\/wrights.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/jurn.link\/spyders\/oldimages\/wrights.jpg?w=300\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"191\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-13863\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>On researching this I was further annoyed to find that it&#8217;s no longer even Wright&#8217;s Coal Tar soap. The EU blocked proper coal tar soap from open sale from around 2012. Wright&#8217;s is now merely billed as &#8216;traditional soap with coal tar fragrance&#8217;. And not so much of the old &#8216;coal tar&#8217; fragrance at that, since the smell is now emulated via a blend of other scents. Quite a toned-down smell, and quite variable from bar to bar. Sometimes hardly even noticeable, I&#8217;ve been finding. I put this variability of &#8216;the coal tar smell&#8217; (which I like and find pleasant) down to the lockdowns and supply problems, and gave the company the benefit of the doubt. But I now discover the horrible truth about this much-loved &#8216;heritage&#8217; brand.<\/p>\n<p>Wright&#8217;s soap is now said to be made in Turkey at the behest of a brand owner in Solihull, near Birmingham. The old original Wright&#8217;s firm having sold out at the end of the 1960s. The active antiseptic ingredient is now the cheap and ubiquitous &#8216;tea oil&#8217;, rather than coal tar (aka <em>liquor carbonis<\/em>).<\/p>\n<p>Even the vintage &#8220;Original&#8221; Wright&#8217;s bars, occasionally for sale on eBay, show by their wrapping that the smell was being reduced before the EU ban&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/jurn.link\/spyders\/oldimages\/milder-fragrence.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/jurn.link\/spyders\/oldimages\/milder-fragrence.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"325\" height=\"202\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-13864\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Note the &#8220;milder fragrance&#8221; claim. It&#8217;s definitely not a smell loved by all, and some (especially women who have to live with it on their men) hate it.<\/p>\n<p>Ok, so are there alternatives in 2023 that have real coal tar and the proper smell? I took a look. &#8216;Kind of&#8217; is the answer.<\/p>\n<p>First, avoid a Russian seller on eBay. There&#8217;s a Russian &#8216;pine tar&#8217; soap which a canny Russian seller passes off as &#8216;coal tar&#8217;, banking that the clueless buyer won&#8217;t know the difference. But pine tar is not coal tar.<\/p>\n<p>The only genuine coal tar soap of any reputation in the UK seems to be <strong>Cosalic<\/strong> soap made by Salvia of India (aka <strong>Coslic<\/strong> or <strong>Cosilc<\/strong> on eBay). 3% coal tar. Possibly this is branded as <strong>Bistar<\/strong> in India, since Bistar has the same distinctive bar shape and colour as Coslic. They actively play on the &#8220;coal&#8221; idea, by making it look like a shaped lump of black coal. Nice idea, and delightfully politically incorrect. <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/jurn.link\/spyders\/oldimages\/bistar.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/jurn.link\/spyders\/oldimages\/bistar.jpg?w=251\" alt=\"\" width=\"251\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-13866\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/jurn.link\/spyders\/oldimages\/cosilc.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/jurn.link\/spyders\/oldimages\/cosilc.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"220\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-13867\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Regrettably though it&#8217;s very expensive either way. Even a 6-pack on Amazon UK will cost \u00a33.88 a bar. That&#8217;s \u00a33 a bar more than Wright&#8217;s! The India Bistar version seems to be even more expensive, probably due to shipping hiding in the &#8216;free shipping&#8217; price. <\/p>\n<p>I also found some U.S. sellers on eBay, from expensive back-room hand-made soap makers to the slick and incredibly expensive U.S. Dermabon brand (\u00a328 a bar!). <\/p>\n<p>It seems that part of the cost problem is that the equipment needed to get coal tar can only be used for coal tar extraction, not multi-use for other products. And that complying with health regulations for the extraction workers is now quite costly for the manufacturer. Once extracted the crude tar material (&#8216;coal tar BP&#8217;) is flammable and thus presumably needs guards and a fire extinguisher system. Trade papers also report post-lockdown shortages (summer 2022) of the items needed to then make the raw coal tar into a retail consumer product.<\/p>\n<p>Thus, while Cosalic soap is freely available in the UK via Amazon&#8230; it is only barely a replacement for Wright&#8217;s due to cost&#8230; and also because Cosalic&#8217;s soap appears to disguise the smell with all sorts of other things. Still, it may be worth trying. Like I said, it&#8217;s openly sold on Amazon UK.<\/p>\n<p>I also found the trusted and UK-made <strong>Polytar<\/strong> Scalp Coal Tar Shampoo 150ml, also freely sold in the UK by Amazon. Under \u00a310 for a 150ml bottle. Has 4% coal tar. It&#8217;s better value than the competing 2% <strong>Neutrogena T\/Gel<\/strong> Therapeutic Shampoo 250ml, also freely sold (Tesco and Morrisons also have T\/Gel on open shelves). Note that <a href=\"https:\/\/cks.nice.org.uk\/topics\/psoriasis\/prescribing-information\/coal-tar-products\/\">the UK&#8217;s official body NICE<\/a> offers public advice on coal tar shampoo use&#8230; &#8220;applied once a week, left on for one hour and then shampooed off&#8221;. I&#8217;m not qualified to offer medical advice here, but this top-level official tip seems useful. It&#8217;s evidently best left on for a time, rather than washed off after three minutes.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, Polytar is by all accounts great for the coal tar smell, and the NICE advice means the shampoo can be left on for much of one&#8217;s bath-time. Thus it seems to me that the way to get the authentic olde 1960s &#8216;Coal Tar&#8217; experience would be to apply your Polytar shampoo shortly after entering a bath, while also sparingly using a very expensive bar of Cosalic. Perhaps also have Wright&#8217;s cheapo ersatz 80p bar on hand too, to make the soap go a bit further.<\/p>\n<p><em>Update: No Polytar at Morrisons or Tesco, but apparently Superdrug, Lloyds Pharmacy and Boots carry it on their shelves in the UK.<\/em><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p>Interestingly in America they don&#8217;t care about EU nonsense, at least for dogs. I was amused to discover that their &#8220;PPP Tar-ific Skin Relief Dog Shampoo&#8221; sells over the counter, and by the gallon(!) and with 2% coal tar.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/jurn.link\/spyders\/oldimages\/tar-ifc.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/jurn.link\/spyders\/oldimages\/tar-ifc.jpg?w=164\" alt=\"\" width=\"164\" height=\"300\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-13869\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p>Also, I see that the EU has banned <a href=\"https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/26885780\/\">Zinc Pyrithione<\/a> as well, from March 2022. If you were wondering why your anti-dandruff shampoo no longer works half as well as it used to, now you know. So far as I can tell the EU&#8217;s reasoning on such things is: it&#8217;s safe, but there may be &#8216;suitable alternatives&#8217;, thus it must be banned. That&#8217;s how the EU&#8217;s bizarre logic works. Of course, in time the &#8216;suitable alternatives&#8217; may turn out to be&#8230; <a href=\"https:\/\/thefederalist.com\/2019\/09\/17\/why-plastic-straws-are-actually-better-for-the-planet-than-paper-straws\/\">unsuitable<\/a>. As such I&#8217;d rather stick with what&#8217;s been proven to be safe for over 50 years and billions of real-world human uses.<\/p>\n<p><em>Update: Discovered Sudocrem. Amazing stuff! After decades of E45 with little result, I tried Sudocrem instead and&#8230; eczema clears up in 48 hours! Get it in the baby aisle of the supermarket (it&#8217;s in heavy demand for nappy-rash), at around \u00a32.50 per pot. Cheap and easily available and&#8230; works. What&#8217;s not to like? The zinc in it, I guess, and I&#8217;d be willing to bet the government would ban it (see note on the zinc shampoo ban, above), if they thought there would not be a mother&#8217;s uprising that would sweep them out of power within a week.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I was annoyed this week to find that Wright&#8217;s Coal Tar soap bars have switched down from 125g to 100g (though still 80 pence, at supermarket prices). On researching this I was further annoyed to find that it&#8217;s no longer even Wright&#8217;s Coal Tar soap. 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