{"id":9352,"date":"2019-01-28T10:10:24","date_gmt":"2019-01-28T10:10:24","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.jurn.link\/dazposer\/?p=9352"},"modified":"2022-07-13T00:18:14","modified_gmt":"2022-07-13T00:18:14","slug":"here-ive-learned-recently-about-poser-and-comics-production","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/jurn.link\/dazposer\/index.php\/2019\/01\/28\/here-ive-learned-recently-about-poser-and-comics-production\/","title":{"rendered":"Here&#8217;s what I&#8217;ve learned recently about Poser and comics production"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ve recently taken a deep-dive into using Poser 11 to emulate 2D comics and natural media.  Here&#8217;s what I learned that&#8217;s new to me:<\/p>\n<p>* There are very few good toon materials that work in Preview in Poser (and thus with Comic Book Preview mode) and do useful stuff.  While <a href=\"https:\/\/www.deviantart.com\/mutinate\/art\/Material-set-for-Comic-Book-Preview-in-Poser-11-780650076\">there are some<\/a>, we could do with more variety.<\/p>\n<p>* Poser&#8217;s Sketch Designer is far more powerful than it&#8217;s given credit for, especially if the output is then <a href=\"https:\/\/www.jurn.link\/dazposer\/?P=8770\">filtered in Photoshop<\/a>.  You just have to be careful that you&#8217;re making custom presets <a href=\"https:\/\/www.jurn.link\/dazposer\/?P=9310\">for use with set render dimensions<\/a> and know how to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.jurn.link\/dazposer\/?p=8770\">turn Sketch off in the background of your picture<\/a>.  Sketch doesn&#8217;t just do Sketch, either. It can also get very painterly, and a custom preset can be designed that gives a scene a good underpainting that is suitable for overpainting in software such as Krita.<\/p>\n<p>* DAP&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.jurn.link\/dazposer\/?p=9248\">&#8220;GrNovel&#8221; filter<\/a> is an excellent third-party tool for filtering inks-only and B&#038;W renders from Poser 11&#8217;s Comic Book Preview mode. I&#8217;ve yet to work out how to get rid of the little bits of blue colour it adds, but a desaturate conversion to greyscale usually does the trick on flat toon ink renders.  It defaults to 2400px, which makes the ink lines rather grainy.  This setting (only two changes) gives a much nicer inked result, and a 4800px output, albeit while taking longer to process&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.jurn.link\/dazposer\/oldimages\/grnovel-settings.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jurn.link\/dazposer\/oldimages\/grnovel-settings.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"104\" height=\"300\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-9815\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>* There are no Moebius-style inking Photoshop or Krita brushes.  There are zillions of grungy cross-hatching brushes, but nothing to aid and speed up Moebius-style &#8216;dash, dot and fence-rail hatch&#8217; inking of clear-line comics.<\/p>\n<p>* Rendering short &#8216;fur&#8217; in Poser&#8217;s hair room can give you a sort of dashed shading that wraps around a character&#8217;s mesh.  A masked .PNG of the hair can be rendered, and you should theoretically be able to use it as a stippling or dash-hatching inks layer. Wrestling a hair layer into looking like Moebius-style inking is probably not viable, though.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.jurn.link\/dazposer\/oldimages\/shairstipple.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jurn.link\/dazposer\/oldimages\/shairstipple.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"682\" height=\"425\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-9353\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>* A subtle <a href=\"https:\/\/www.deviantart.com\/mutinate\/art\/How-to-do-an-ambient-occlusion-render-in-Poser-11-780232577\">ambient occlusion &#8216;shadows&#8217; layer<\/a> from Poser seems a useful way of keeping shading consistent across hundreds of comic frames made with Poser&#8217;s Comic Book Preview, without having the 2D output turn into a muddy and unpleasing mash-up of 2D and 3D.<\/p>\n<p>* As well as burning off the textures from a 3D model (very easily done, with the Comic Book Preview B&#038;W dial) it&#8217;s also possible to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.jurn.link\/dazposer\/?p=9294\">use Display Styles in combination with different lights<\/a> to get different variants of a B&#038;W line-art look with shadowing.<\/p>\n<p>* Close-up renders made with the Firefly + toon outlines have unwanted speckles on them.  Update: they&#8217;re mostly caused by bump-maps.<\/p>\n<p>* When using Preview + flat toon lighting, a Poser Display Style of &#8216;Cartoon w\/Line + One Tone&#8217; can be a viable alternative to a Firefly ToonID layer.  Such a layer is used in Photoshop when you have a layer stack of ink outlines on top of colour flats, and want to quickly paintbucket in a new colour or make a quick precise selection of an area.<\/p>\n<p>* Saving the Poser Comic Book Preview render <a href=\"https:\/\/www.jurn.link\/dazposer\/?p=9340\">as a single-frame Flash .SWF movie<\/a> also results in yet another type of toon render, albeit one that&#8217;s not easy to get out to a .PNG file.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ve recently taken a deep-dive into using Poser 11 to emulate 2D comics and natural media. Here&#8217;s what I learned that&#8217;s new to me: * There are very few good toon materials that work in Preview in Poser (and thus with Comic Book Preview mode) and do useful stuff. While there are some, we could [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[11,3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-9352","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-comics","category-poser"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/jurn.link\/dazposer\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9352","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/jurn.link\/dazposer\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/jurn.link\/dazposer\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jurn.link\/dazposer\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jurn.link\/dazposer\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=9352"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/jurn.link\/dazposer\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9352\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":19202,"href":"https:\/\/jurn.link\/dazposer\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9352\/revisions\/19202"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/jurn.link\/dazposer\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=9352"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jurn.link\/dazposer\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=9352"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jurn.link\/dazposer\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=9352"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}