{"id":12971,"date":"2020-01-07T07:19:58","date_gmt":"2020-01-07T07:19:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.jurn.link\/dazposer\/?p=12971"},"modified":"2020-01-07T07:19:58","modified_gmt":"2020-01-07T07:19:58","slug":"core-blimey","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/jurn.link\/dazposer\/index.php\/2020\/01\/07\/core-blimey\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;Core blimey!&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s finally official, AMD is set to ship its long-teased &#8220;world&#8217;s first 64-core, 128-thread&#8221; CPU early next month. It&#8217;s a consumer unit, not a server unit. The AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3990X will be $4,000 and will ship on 7th February 2020.  By all accounts AMD generally now has total supremacy in the marketplace, beating Intel by a mile on both price and speed in both the server and the consumer markets.  Their new CPU would be like having a 128-thread render-farm under your desk, crunching on your CPU dependent rendering (i.e. from Vue XStream, Poser&#8217;s Firefly, Keyshot etc). I imagine it would also probably be rather handy for capturing and streaming HD video while you run demanding software.  <\/p>\n<p>Of course it would need your other PC components to be able to keep up with it, so you&#8217;d really want it in a new PC. Thus the most important question is, what&#8217;s the likely cost of that? I can&#8217;t immediately find anyone set to ship such a thing in February, but I suspect you&#8217;re probably looking at $7,000 for such a PC by summer 2020.  That&#8217;s a hefty dent in your wallet, but it&#8217;s not an impossible sum for a small studio looking for a tax write-off. Yet if AMD can get some sort of 64-core into mass production and thus drop the price, it would be nice to imagine that a 64-core could be in a $4,999 content-maker workstation by late 2021.<\/p>\n<p>The obvious step down appears to be the new $800 <a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/36vI4o5\">AMD Ryzen 3950X<\/a>, at 16 cores and offering a mere 32 render threads.  That&#8217;s for the CPU alone. <\/p>\n<p>Below that is the $500 <a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/2sWlmGW\">AMD Ryzen 3900X<\/a> at 12 cores and 24 threads, again for the CPU alone. A somewhat future-proofed <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.logicalincrements.com\/2019\/07\/building-pc-amd-ryzen-9-3900x\/\">self-build list<\/a> in summer 2019 used this CPU and quality components and topped out at $3,400.  However I see that the same CPU is now in UK gaming rigs at around \u00a31,300 all-in.  I assume the graphics card in one of those would also make light work of iRay renders from DAZ Studio, though at that relatively cheap price it probably wouldn&#8217;t be capable of fast real-time ray-tracing.<\/p>\n<p>Below that, in terms of pre-built PCs, the cheapest gaming PC with a AMD Ryzen 7 2700 (8 Cores, 16 render threads) can be had in the UK for around \u00a3480 from Fierce, but it may be just as cheap to custom-build up your own 3D-focused PC from a motherboard + CPU bundle.  Note that 2700 is the energy-efficient 65w version, and the 2700x is the more power-hungry and slightly faster version.  It&#8217;s apparently a trade-off there, slightly more power from the 2700x&#8230; but noiser fans. The 2700 is said on the Smith Micro forum to be in 2019 about the equivalent of 2 x Xeon X5690 CPUs (24 render threads) in a old refurbished workstation.<\/p>\n<p>Avoid the pre-Ryzen AMD FX-8320 PC, which can be found at about the same price as the 2700&#8217;s. Supposedly &#8220;8-core&#8221; circa 2012, and nice to have at that point in time.  But apparently the 8320 was really 8 threads-pretending-to-be-cores sitting in 4-cores, done via some fancy cache workarounds.  So far as I can tell that means you won&#8217;t get it to show 16 render threads to the likes of Vue in 2020, since it&#8217;s wasn&#8217;t a real 8-core.  However, if you can pick one up for \u00a3100 it could be used as a fairly fast render-node for Vue.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s finally official, AMD is set to ship its long-teased &#8220;world&#8217;s first 64-core, 128-thread&#8221; CPU early next month. It&#8217;s a consumer unit, not a server unit. The AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3990X will be $4,000 and will ship on 7th February 2020. 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